tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38881345.post7209661885576004132..comments2008-05-10T17:43:12.715-07:00Dinohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11257114174834543704noreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38881345.post-19076694217423398982008-05-10T17:43:00.000-07:002008-05-10T17:43:00.000-07:00

Anon 12:03I am not in Mr. Monroe's "camp" and I doubt he knows I am posting or remembers who I am. I had an issue with the city once and he handled it for me. Never asked for anything in return.I followed the story of Los Caporalas very closely and I have been to several of their rodeos. It is a cultural event. That is its value to this community. Arts problem with them is they are not

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38881345.post-48017642786403701452008-05-10T13:35:00.000-07:002008-05-10T13:35:00.000-07:00

Art should tell Matt to stop bringing this back to life.People are beginning to doubt Art again.

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38881345.post-14347476053412666412008-05-10T12:03:00.000-07:002008-05-10T12:03:00.000-07:00

"We all know that Matt, Art and Art's supporters say Mr. Monroe should have covered it up."I'm not a big Monroe supporter... but if I were, the overwhelming abundance of exactly these kind of ridiculous comments would make me so embarrassed of the sounds emanating from my own camp -- I would have a hard time displaying the same sign.

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38881345.post-89844621384387596672008-05-10T11:23:00.000-07:002008-05-10T11:23:00.000-07:00

Here is a simple ethics test:If you were am elected official and you received numerous verbal complaints and one signed affidavit alleging misconduct by one of your fellow council members what would you do?1. Go to Art and cover it up.2. Give it all to the city attorney and ask for an opinion.3. Go directly to the DAWe all know that Matt, Art and Art's supporters say Mr. Monroe should have

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38881345.post-74269081234586579752008-05-10T07:34:00.000-07:002008-05-10T07:34:00.000-07:00

DuhWhy is it that Art's people say Jeff should have told Art or else go directly to the athorities?Seem to me Jeff took the option in the middle by allowing the city attorney (who also represents Art) and allowed the city attorney to review it. The city attorney then turned it over to the District Attorney.Art's people are just not logical.They prefer one extreme or the other.Diplomacy is all

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38881345.post-20479280643529530762008-05-09T10:37:00.000-07:002008-05-09T10:37:00.000-07:00

8:13, Jeff is also a sherrif. He would seem to be the most direct route to authorities, you might say.

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38881345.post-56066907108097987252008-05-08T21:27:00.000-07:002008-05-08T21:27:00.000-07:00

7:55Sorry, I just don't see the subsidies. Perhaps you can produce the grant letter or any other pecuniary documentation that supports your claim. Also, you made the mistake in showing your hand with your so-called solution. Thanks for your untarnished insight.8:13"She works for the county and would be familiar with the existence of the DA." That's brilliant.

dinonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38881345.post-43242297936673079662008-05-08T20:13:00.000-07:002008-05-08T20:13:00.000-07:00

I jst red the lettters on Matt's blog and it raises some interesting question. Why did Grace approach Monroe with the letter. She works for the county and would be familiar with the existence of the DA. But no, she contacted a council member who was supporting Los Caporales. It smells fishy? It seems to me that the proper thing that Jeff should have done was to refer Grace to the proper

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38881345.post-49065602408520858012008-05-08T19:55:00.000-07:002008-05-08T19:55:00.000-07:00

It has been reported that the Caporales make over $60,000 dollars per event during the Summer and hold at least one event per month. Where does the money g? It goes to pay the music groups, publicity etc. Most of it goes out to business people from Sacramento and Mexico. Not much stays in the community. Yet, it is public property leased to Los Caporales at a very low rental. If such property

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38881345.post-55991258060016154912008-05-08T19:03:00.000-07:002008-05-08T19:03:00.000-07:00

6:35You don't make sense.Selling alcohol is a way many non-profit organizations make money. Period.There is no subsidy provided to Los Caporales. Period.Both parties negotiated the lease. Obviously, the renter wants the lowest price possible. Period.Do I think this is the type of business the City of Woodland should be involved in? The rental business? Yes, they already are. The rodeo business?

Dinonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38881345.post-48424647957066595952008-05-08T18:35:00.000-07:002008-05-08T18:35:00.000-07:00

Look into the organization more before making correlations between the Caporales and a church (holy rosary), or the Rotary. By offering below-market rent, the City of Woodland is supporting/condoning the Caporales' events & mission. In essence the City of Woodland is offsetting the Caporales' cost to operate. I am sure there are plenty of other organizations or businesses that would want to have

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38881345.post-20057646319162655902008-05-08T18:09:00.000-07:002008-05-08T18:09:00.000-07:00

5:10 and 5:15I understand how a city might offer a lease for below market value. I don't understand the correlation between Los Caporales and the school district... other than there are public funds. In the case of the school district, the funds are going out. In the case of the rodeo, the funds are coming in.The question I had was specific to a subsidy the city was supposedly providing the group

Dinonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38881345.post-11166245522673667552008-05-08T17:15:00.000-07:002008-05-08T17:15:00.000-07:00

Dino,As you know, through your coverage of the WJUSD's dealings with their new building: "market-value" is important in determining how public funds are expended or utilized. The question is: does the work the Caporales do justify their lease falling below market value? Especially since they are offering programming on City Property. Does their work serve the City of Woodland or its constituents

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38881345.post-55913633768588633792008-05-08T17:10:00.000-07:002008-05-08T17:10:00.000-07:00

Dino,Municipalities will often offer leases below "market-value" to organizations that are offering not-for-profit activities and services. These could be K-12 related non-profits that do work to support the mission of K-12. Sometimes the City of Woodland or School District might offer space at a "subsidized" or "below-market" rate because their activities benefit their constituents. I assume a

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38881345.post-58097532415844336562008-05-08T16:33:00.000-07:002008-05-08T16:33:00.000-07:00

Hello All.The claim on Mr. Rexroad's website that Jeff and I were somehow responsible for the Flatlander is just false. I've heard some people say they like the Flatlander publication "because it is different." Others say it is too harsh on local elected officials. I can only guess that Art or Matt are concerned that people are going to do another publication for this upcoming June election and

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38881345.post-43324668665875202942008-05-08T15:21:00.000-07:002008-05-08T15:21:00.000-07:00

I say both.Rental info from cityofwoodland.org:Banquet Room, Kitchen & Patio range from $2,310 - $3,720Events with alcohol require security and an associated fees.

dinonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38881345.post-18157279168451996442008-05-08T15:13:00.000-07:002008-05-08T15:13:00.000-07:00

Served or Sold for profit?

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38881345.post-54410605758039627702008-05-08T14:32:00.000-07:002008-05-08T14:32:00.000-07:00

What's with the "subsidized" lease? A lease is a lease. There is just one price to which two parties agree.Alcohol is served at events held at the Community, Senior and Dog Center.

dinonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38881345.post-38354753123242337292008-05-08T13:40:00.000-07:002008-05-08T13:40:00.000-07:00

To 11:38,Is it true that the Caporales split? Were the people pushing for the subsidized lease not the same people that would continue holding large concerts where alcohol is served?From watching this unfold from the City Council chambers, Art was never in favor of anyone getting a subsidized lease when they were going to turn a profit, off of concerts and alcohol sales, while not benefiting the

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38881345.post-54383760660963240332008-05-08T11:38:00.000-07:002008-05-08T11:38:00.000-07:00

I agree. It was not that the Caporalles were bribing At. The issue was the group split and the ones that caused problems with drinking and mayhem formed a new group and tried to get Art to kickout the good group (the Capporales) and let them take over. For this Art was said to have taken a $10,000 "consulting fee."Still, the DA only prosecutes cases they have enough evidence to win. Guilty

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38881345.post-65892676747768945802008-05-08T10:54:00.000-07:002008-05-08T10:54:00.000-07:00

to 958amhow did you manage to twist that all around? i find your reasoning to get to your conclusion very confusing. i think you need to call Jeff and have a chat rather than make this topic so difficult to understand

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38881345.post-69183036041119919692008-05-08T09:58:00.000-07:002008-05-08T09:58:00.000-07:00

Thank you Dino! I am new to this blog and was not aware of Rexroad's website, his postings or of the various other posting on your blog where this issue is being debated. What a troubling issue this is! As a concerned Woodland voter and resident, this is all coming into focus for me: Mr. Monroe was in solidarity with the Caporales' efforts to renew their lease with the City. Mr. Monroe was also

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38881345.post-31957539421882200362008-05-08T09:33:00.000-07:002008-05-08T09:33:00.000-07:00

Why is Rexroad pushing this Pimentel issue about the DA. Doesn't it just make everyone think maybe Pimentel is a crook. You do not catch the smart ones.

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38881345.post-16401442701268314752008-05-08T09:31:00.000-07:002008-05-08T09:31:00.000-07:00

Rexroad is obsessed with Monroe and obviously working for Pimentel. Whatever he posts will probably be doctored.Look at what he doing to that poor woman on CR 18c. How do we go about recalling Rexroad? He is really bad for this town.

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38881345.post-51178769624892896492008-05-08T07:56:00.000-07:002008-05-08T07:56:00.000-07:00

7:52In this country, people are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

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